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Re: ummmmm Marvel vs Capcom 3 anyone???
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:31 pm
by Fluffyumpkins
Oh dear. I'm sick today and won't be going to pick up the game until tomorrow.
Re: ummmmm Marvel vs Capcom 3 anyone???
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:30 pm
by Merk
Over / Under on how many months it will take before Team If You-Don't-Pick-This-You're-Going-To-Lose is discovered and we all go back to hating this game?
I'll set the line at 3 months.
Re: ummmmm Marvel vs Capcom 3 anyone???
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:59 pm
by Riot
Hawkeye is pretty hard to play honestly. He is very unintuitive and you have to do a lot of weird dashing and movements so you can use your trickshots. He is pretty nasty paired with Task and Doom assist though (using horizontal and plasma beam). Triple arrows > task assist > triple arrows all connect if you hit with the first arrow and it does a lot of damage. I can do a combo (almost reliably keke) with both assists and two poison arrows for an extra 180k unscaled damage. If someone gets in on me though he sucks and I don't know how to get out yet.
Taskmaster feels fat. It's like he ate a bunch of donuts and gained 50 pounds. It's weird, he just feels heavier and I'm dropping combos. It's probably due to changes in hitstun scaling with a lot of hits and the fact that he doesn't float as much on his jumping H in the air, so I have to adjust my combo after I launch. It's hard to break old habits so far.
It doesn't help that most of my online matches have been just slightly laggy so far. It's never spikes, some matches just felt a tad bit slow which made me drop combos. But it might just be me adjusting to new characters and different mechanics. I wanna fight people!
Re: ummmmm Marvel vs Capcom 3 anyone???
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:15 am
by Merk
I'm not going to play this game until after my interview on Thursday but I think I'm going to start off trying to synergize Magneto/Frank West/Doom
Re: ummmmm Marvel vs Capcom 3 anyone???
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:19 am
by Merk
As much as I love the little "ummmm xxxxx anyone???" thread title meme that we have going on, I demand that Chad changes the thread title to "UMvC3: A cat, a dog, and a raccoon walk into a bar..."
Re: ummmmm Marvel vs Capcom 3 anyone???
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:56 pm
by Riot
Magneto/Frank/Doom seems pretty good honestly. Magneto is still good, Frank can benefit from Magneto's long combos (though shorter than before most of the time) and level up to 4 or 5 easily with a DHC, and Doom is obviously pretty good in this game. I still honestly think Hawkeye is one of the best characters in the game, and I'm sure more people are going to be jumping on the bandwagon. DAY ONE REVEAL BABY, before everyone says I'm a bandwagoner.
At the moment, I gotta really work on a new Taskmaster bnb because he is fat now and I drop everything.
Re: ummmmm Marvel vs Capcom 3 anyone???
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:16 pm
by Fluffyumpkins
Riot wrote:Magneto/Frank/Doom seems pretty good honestly. Magneto is still good, Frank can benefit from Magneto's long combos (though shorter than before most of the time) and level up to 4 or 5 easily with a DHC, and Doom is obviously pretty good in this game. I still honestly think Hawkeye is one of the best characters in the game, and I'm sure more people are going to be jumping on the bandwagon. DAY ONE REVEAL BABY, before everyone says I'm a bandwagoner.
At the moment, I gotta really work on a new Taskmaster bnb because he is fat now and I drop everything.
You'd better get Vergil now. He'll be top tier.
Re: ummmmm Marvel vs Capcom 3 anyone???
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:35 pm
by Riot
I disagree. I think he will be popular for awhile and annoy everyone with his cross-up move, but eventually he will plateau since he is relatively unsafe and low health. I'm guessing Wesker/Dormammu/Vergil or Wesker/Vergil/Doom will be dominant tourney teams for the first few months, then lesser-explored characters from the first game will start rising, like Felicia.
Re: ummmmm Marvel vs Capcom 3 anyone???
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:37 pm
by Merk
Is coast to coast still possible or has my entire gameplan with Magneto been thrown to the wolves?
Re: ummmmm Marvel vs Capcom 3 anyone???
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:39 pm
by Riot
I believe Coast to Coast is not possible, but in the corner you can do something similar. Airdash is slower and something is different with his hard punch so it doesn't cause the opponent to float so much or something. I dunno. You can do similar combos, just not the full coast to coast. There are alternatives I believe, just not so ridiculous.
Re: ummmmm Marvel vs Capcom 3 anyone???
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:42 pm
by Merk
Yeah I'm going to have to drop Magneto then. Any character whose execution takes any more effort than the coast to coast is not worth it. We live in a world of ABCS j.ABCS OTG hyper -> DHC
Re: ummmmm Marvel vs Capcom 3 anyone???
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:52 pm
by Fluffyumpkins
Merk wrote:Yeah I'm going to have to drop Magneto then. Any character whose execution takes any more effort than the coast to coast is not worth it. We live in a world of ABCS j.ABCS OTG hyper -> DHC
Seems more like Combo, Assist, Combo, Assist, Combo, Hyper, DHC.
This game will quickly end up being 1 hit kills.
Re: ummmmm Marvel vs Capcom 3 anyone???
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:00 pm
by Riot
Except assists count towards hit stun scaling a lot and long extended combos with multiple assists don't really work anymore. Timing is much tighter now.
Re: ummmmm Marvel vs Capcom 3 anyone???
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:02 pm
by Fluffyumpkins
Riot wrote:Except assists count towards hit stun scaling a lot and long extended combos with multiple assists don't really work anymore. Timing is much tighter now.
Well that's better I guess. I still suspect my 2nd statement:
This game will quickly end up being 1 hit kills.
Re: ummmmm Marvel vs Capcom 3 anyone???
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:22 pm
by Riot
Settling in to Taskmaster/Hawkeye/Doom now. I'm still a little awkward getting openings with Hawkeye and Doom, but most of the time I'm killing people with just my point Task with missile assist, using Hawkeye poison assist to extend Taskmaster combo a little bit (still can't get the relaunches at all like vanilla with him), but air xfactor is very very handy for Taskmaster. Hawkeye's instant Gimlet hyper is awesome to punish as well, and can DHC into Task or xfactor into another one for instant punish for people being dumb. The main reason I die is calling dumb assists against beam characters, as there are a lot of Ryu players.
p.s. I think Firebrand is another one of the relatively unhyped characters that will rise to top tier with Hawkeye. And Dormammu, that dude is top tier for sure now.
Merk, some Magneto tech with Frank:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZwWKqSf ... re=related
and the rom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... vpYgrzUxBg