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That's a pretty mean title.

Yeah man it ain't my video! I would have titled it "Soulful Crooner Serenades Us With Smooth Anime Jams"

Chad put it more succinctly but I'm not saying don't vote, I'm saying national politics has become less about taking an actual stand and representing your constituents and more about following a political party line that is heavily influenced by corporate lobbying and special interest groups with a looooooot of fucking money and self interest. Sometimes politicians need to build political capital (ie. votes) to stay in power so they'll make a social change and throw a bone to the people but only if they think it will gain more votes than they will lose and if they won't piss off the lobbyists too much. To go off your example - liking gays, or at the very least tolerating gays, has become something that actually builds political capital so you have politicians now taking pro-gay approaches to social policy when merely 12 years ago you had politicians upholding Don't Ask Don't Tell and defining marriage as being strictly between a man and a woman. Potter, I hope to God that one day we have a universal healthcare system but I know it will very likely never happen here because the healthcare industry (ugh, I can't believe I have to use those two words together) and insurance companies have such a fucking stronghold on Washington that the only way it's ever going to happen is if some MegaCorp or the healthcare-trust gets an absolutely soul-crushing amount of money from it.

Local politicians aren't exposed to lobbying interests as much so I encourage people to take downballot voting seriously - that's where change and representation has an actual chance of taking place or at least that's what I tell myself at night to keep myself from blowing my God damn brains out.

I'm not sure what the solution to all of this bocrap is, but this page offers what could be a good start -- http://www.thirty-thousand.org/

so what I'm getting is that it's an evil mind control trick because it's reduced to two choices because none of you participate in or understand how primaries work

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study after study confirms politicians do everything they can to keep 70%+ of their promises, and the majority that aren't kept are due to congressional opposition and not flip flopping. You can argue about their motivations behind keeping those promises all you want, but the idea that there will be no difference between the presidencies of two vastly different party platforms and promises is a fallacy, which is what you originally stated. you guys need to read less Cracked

http://www.fcsh.unl.pt/media/noticias/d ... ledges.pdf

https://www.amazon.com/Promises-Perform ... 081914214X

https://www.amazon.com/Presidents-Promi ... 0871873362

Potter, Jesus Christ, nice meltdown.

Your viewpoint is utterly framed in a status quo of corporate oligarchy that has meticulously been upheld since the Roosevelt (Teddy, not Franky) administration. Are you familiar with Citizens United by any chance? No, it doesn't fucking matter which of the major two parties is sitting in the oval office or who is the majority in congress, big business is going to win regardless at the expense of the common good. If you don't think that's the case then why is lobbying as big as it is? Why is there such a push to keep things as they are? Why do all viewpoints outside of the two major parties get expunged and laughed off by the media? If you don't think there's a political-media complex in this country then I encourage you to keep reading Snopes and posting memes on FB and basically not do any critical thinking, it's what everyone else does.

I can't believe you brought up party primaries during an election cycle where a man was literally demeaned and sabotaged by his own political party when a substantial number of liberal constituents were all for him. It's almost as if the Democratic party doesn't care about representing what their party members want! We don't want you to vote for this guy, here vote for this person who does not represent you instead! Thank you!

The two major parties will implement social change if it suits them, they don't do it for some sort of common good. No one in this country thinks that our healthcare system is reasonable but neither party wants to fight it. Seriously how can the common good be represented when neither party wants to fight for something that we need? Lobbyists will fight every and any legislation that people actually need and they fucking get away with it because people like Bernie who actually tried to fight it get shot down and liberal lap dogs do as they are told and vote for the corpo puppet that replaces him. At least the right is honest when they give you the middle finger.


Potter try having something taken away from you due to politics and you'll be just as jaded. Hey remember when I could play online poker? Hey remember when both parties were like, "Yeah freedom to play poker is important we'll fix this right away" and yet five years later I still can't play poker? HMMMMMM I WONDER IF THE CASINO LOBBY HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS?!?!? HMMMM I WONDER IF PERHAPS POKER PLAYERS ARE A MARGINALIZED VOTING BLOCK?!?! And the shit of all of this is that poker itself is such a bullshit nothing thing, I have no delusions that in the grand scheme of it all that its an unimportant thing to most people. What really upsets me is that the things people actually need and depend on like healthcare or weed or fair representation or non-exploitative wages or anything else that's in the public eye and actually mentioned in the media is effectively ignored and given mere lip service by politicians and nooooooo one cares because we've all been trained to follow a two-party line. If the people want something neither party is willing to fight for then we all lose and we've been losing for decades. Yeah guys, we'll get right on fixing the glaring wage discrepancy *takes huge paycheck from lobbyist* *John Q Stockbroker pays half the taxes that everyone else does* *Big CEO man exploits tax loophole by donating his money to a charity he solely controls*


Please read this -- http://www.thirty-thousand.org/

Now if you'll excuse me I have a brick wall I need to scream at.

lol merk IRL triggered. Citizens United? you mean that thing that one, and only one of the candidates has pledged to overturn?

Merk wrote:I can't believe you brought up party primaries during an election cycle where a man was literally demeaned and sabotaged by his own political party when a substantial number of liberal constituents were all for him

yeah, this is why I'm not taking you seriously. Where do you get this information, Occupy Democrats? Dailykos? Did you even actually read any of the leaked emails? The biggest instance of secret cohersion against bernie was someone saying "this guy is kind of annoying" in private email. Bernie lost in california by *2 million votes*. That is not being sabotaged by his own party, that's the system working exactly as it should - the majority public doesn't share his platform ideals right now, so he didn't win. It's super cool you and a bunch of other white people really wanted him to win, but that doesn't mean the country does. When a candidate runs a huge well reaching campaign and received more positive media coverage than any other candidate, and still loses by millions of votes, it's because people don't want his platform. Not because someone magically suppressed his campaign or media coverage, because that never happened. The DNC didn't magically fake 2 million votes or some of the other insane shit I've seen on facebook, he simply lost.

You don't get to complain about some mysterious corruption and that the system is broken just because your candidate lost. Tell me, would you rather have a primary methodology that awarded the nomination to someone who lost the popular vote by millions? That will definitely be representative of the people bro. Or let me guess, you'd rather have it where we do away with the electoral college so the population of california alone decides our president every election? I'm genuinely curious as to what kind of system you're pitching where a candidate loses by several million, yet still wins because you wanted him to, and uh, it's not corrupt that way, because uh, bernie sanders

the whole "bernie was sabotaged by his own party" meme is one of the dumbest things to circulate politics this year. it's patently false, there's no backing behind it, and it's just something to say to make all the bernie bros feel better about their massive let down as they realized all the grown ups didn't share and vote with the same ideals they did. Maybe someday, but not this year

even sanders himself said that rhetoric is bullshit http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ber ... 90f7e7a3ec

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the ... t-sanders/

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... count.html - look at how close it was! look at all that suppression! oh, wai-

Can you point me to any proof his party sabotaged him out of millions of votes? Because he factually received far more positive media coverage than hillary, ran a huge reaching campaign, the populace just didn't want it. And really I mean if you have any proof you can point me towards just skip me altogether and take it to wikileaks or CNN or any other major or independent outlet because they would *love* absolutely anything that substantiates any of this

Merk wrote:Potter try having something taken away from you due to politics and you'll be just as jaded

Try having your healthcare and citizenship ripped away from your family because a bunch of white middle class boys refused to vote, citing the one time a politician took their precious internet poker away. So all the 70 year old southerners that actually show up to vote in large numbers decided our political platform for the next 4 years. If you think this doesn't happen, look at the 2004 election and the universally awful policies we ended up with that *still* affect us today. The iraq war, no child left behind, massive tax cuts for the rich, deregulation of wall street leading to abuse of synthetic CDO's and others leading to the eventual housing crisis, I mean all of that is OK tho because you got to stay home and feel all warm and fuzzy inside refusing to vote for kerry because he didn't campaign about some stupid internet game enough to appease you lol. fucking whitest shit I've ever heard in my life


so once again, your original statement:

Merk wrote:voters can't change anything.

is patently false, and super edgy. Are you going to concede that yet or do you want to sidestep into evil DNC emails some more? It's not that I believe our current government is some perfect system immune to corruption, I'm just not stubborn enough to throw away voting power that factually and demonstrably has massively influenced government and legislation over the last 50 years just because a candidate doesn't make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside while touching on every single issue that matters to me. Protip: regardless of how many parties you have, that will never happen. Giving up and saying voting doesn't matter is especially hilarious this year where the candidate differential is so large it could very realistically mean hundreds of thousands of people being deported, losing healthcare, losing benefits, tax increases, and potential armed conflict. But hey man I understand if that all takes a backseat because last election nobody paid attention to your online poker issues

it's ok tho I still love u even if u hate minorities <3

Nice strawman, thanks for missing the point of my post. Keep getting hung up on little election cycle bullshit and not looking at the big picture! I too am easily distracted from actual issues. I should have known better than to talk politics on the Internet.

I'm not saying don't vote, I'm saying national politics has become less about taking an actual stand and representing your constituents and more about following a political party line that is heavily influenced by corporate lobbying and special interest groups with a looooooot of fucking money and self interest

Potter if Citizens United actually gets overturned and not replaced by some equally awful legislation I will suck your dick and take a bunch of selfie snaps whilst doing so.

I'd like to hear your opinion on this -- http://www.thirty-thousand.org/

An election day haiku:

I voted for Trump.
America great again.
Look at my sticker.

Potter, who did you vote for?

Aaaaayyyyy hold on to your jobs... It's recession time!

Does anyone know where I can buy crow futures? The people who unquestionably and shamelessly sabotaged the Bernie bid are going to be eating a fuckload of it lol




Hindsight is 20/20 but Clinton ran the worst fucking campaign. Does she not know that people don't actually research issues? Does she not know that you need simple and pithy slogans and soundbites? Her campaign ads were, "Hey I'm not Trump." -- her entire strategy against Trump was "Let him punch himself in the dick and not take a stand on anything. The people will come." Did she even have a slogan outside of some self-serving hashtag (#imwithher)? Make America Great Again at least had a ring to it that could call the rednecks out in droves. Obama did well with the whole "Hope and change" message and it juxtaposed well against the "Hey let's keep doing what we're doing" message that McCain had. It's like the Republicans took the Dems' playbook from 2008/2012 and used it against them lol

It's okay Potter I'll still suck your dick I have a feeling you have a nice wiener.

Aaaaayyyyy hold on to your jobs... It's recession time!

You know as well as I do that literally nothing will come of this. You should genuinely be concerned about the weed laws that were passed though since that's gonna wreck your bloated home value. I would honestly consider selling your place now and coming back. Come home, Chad, come home...

Facebook is blowing up and people are writing straight up manifestos and I'm over here like, "Man that's a lot of words just to say BAWWWWWW" lol

Pretty interesting read -- https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/10/demo ... s-workers/

I guess demonizing super racist Obama voting white people isn't the best approach Potter lol