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Dance Dance Revolution

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:00 pm
by Riot

Re: Dance Dance Revolution

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:10 pm
by WyomingMyst
In short I love the sexy new white cabinet. However the software is still *meh*, they have not upgraded the graphics capability since SuperNOVA, and the song selection seems rather typical. Not counting the Stepmania/In The Groove level of hardcore play, there seems to be nothing to bring existing players to the next level of play since X2. I have not seen enough videos to say for sure but it seems that the Course mode (Nonstop/Challenge) is still the same from the last three versions.

If this (or any other version of DDR) was to come stateside I would have thought Konami would have made some announcement during The Amusement Expo last month, however there was nothing. It seems clear that Konami continues to decline in the North American arcade market. I wish there was something we can do about it, however I see nothing can be done getting Konami out of it's grave.

Re: Dance Dance Revolution

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:09 pm
by SoDeepPolaris
WyomingMyst wrote:In short I love the sexy new white cabinet. However the software is still *meh*, they have not upgraded the graphics capability since SuperNOVA, and the song selection seems rather typical. Not counting the Stepmania/In The Groove level of hardcore play, there seems to be nothing to bring existing players to the next level of play since X2. I have not seen enough videos to say for sure but it seems that the Course mode (Nonstop/Challenge) is still the same from the last three versions.
Wait, since when does any DDR mix have comparable difficulty to even 13s from ITG2? I guess Paranoia Revolution looks comparable but I haven't really kept up with new songs (also haven't played any dancing games for approx. 2.5 years).

Re: Dance Dance Revolution

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:29 pm
by Fluffyumpkins
Paranoia Respect is an ITG 11 at best.

888 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A88uA97JOoM
Paranoia Hades - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ8I-h6dOA0
Pluto Relinquish - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMzMzYEuGUU
Valkyrie Dimension - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hromx6HeN_w
FELM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJIKlYY3aI0

I don't know much about ITG 13s, but these are all pretty tough.

Re: Dance Dance Revolution

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:05 pm
by SoDeepPolaris
Fluffyumpkins wrote:Paranoia Respect is an ITG 11 at best.

888 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A88uA97JOoM
Paranoia Hades - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ8I-h6dOA0
Pluto Relinquish - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMzMzYEuGUU
Valkyrie Dimension - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hromx6HeN_w
FELM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJIKlYY3aI0

I don't know much about ITG 13s, but these are all pretty tough.
Valkyrie Dimension looks harder than anything on ITG2 release, tbh. 888 and Pluto look 12-ish, Hades 11...say, "Yay" to subjectivity.

I've always disliked a lot of the newer so-called boss songs on DDR because I feel they overuse gimmicks and 1x reading to make it challenging whereas ITG charts relied less on bullshit instant tempo changes and more on stamina and speed. I'm not saying there isn't a place for both game mechanics and athletic performance but I just have a personal preference for the latter.

I wouldn't really expect Konami to try and touch the stuff that the customs kiddies are doing, though. It's not very accessible.

Re: Dance Dance Revolution

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:21 pm
by Fluffyumpkins
To be clear, are we talking about ITG charts or charts made by the ITG community?

Re: Dance Dance Revolution

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:13 pm
by DAVE101
I'd actually give a little more credit to the difficulty of DDR Boss Songs. It's kind of hard to compare because, aside from the gimmicks already mentioned, the core of the difficulty arises from hella fast crossovers and step jumps, whereas ITG type songs derive most of their difficulty from stream (or foot speed with easy patterns).

Re: Dance Dance Revolution

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:23 pm
by SoDeepPolaris
Fluffyumpkins wrote:To be clear, are we talking about ITG charts or charts made by the ITG community?
I was talking about release songs, not community customs.

Re: Dance Dance Revolution

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:52 am
by Fluffyumpkins
Things really changed from, "Man, I can't wait to play some DDR/ITG." to "Man, I should really play more DDR/ITG." I guess I just don't have that much fun with it anymore.

Re: Dance Dance Revolution

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:04 pm
by Merk
I LIKE DDR

Re: Dance Dance Revolution

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:32 pm
by WyomingMyst
I like chocolate milk and DDR.

Re: Dance Dance Revolution

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:05 pm
by SoDeepPolaris
Fluffyumpkins wrote:Things really changed from, "Man, I can't wait to play some DDR/ITG." to "Man, I should really play more DDR/ITG." I guess I just don't have that much fun with it anymore.
I would play significantly more if I had a playable machine closer than 60 miles away.