Moonlight Shadow Heavy Double
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:34 pm
This chart is often touted as one of the most misrated and well constructed doubles charts Konami has ever done. I'm certainly not the best doubles player around, and I don't want this thread to devolve into an e-peen contest. What I would like to do is analyze the chart to see if it really is as cleanly put together as everyone would believe. I continuously struggle on this, and can't help but think something doesn't quite line up.
http://www.ddrfreak.com/stepcharts/step ... mit=Submit
I've cut out a part of this chart and segmented it into 3 sets of steps. *See attachment below*
#1: You can do this one of two ways.
1. Left foot on p2 right starting crossed.
2. Right foot on p2 right starting normally.
If you take option 1, it isn’t that hard. Option 2 requires a deep cross making the player face away from the screen or really contort the legs. Depending on the option you take, you end up starting differently for part 2.
#2:
1. Following option 1 above, you begin uncrossed with the right foot on p1 left. This is essentially starting crossed. This leads to a similar deep cross facing away from the screen much like option 2 on part 1.
2. Following option 2 above, this part is fairly simply. You’ll begin with the left foot on p1 left.
#3:
1. Starts crossed right foot p1 left. Fairly easy to do.
2. Starts uncrossed left foot p1 left. Has the same deep cross mentioned above.
The only way to make this work without facing away from the screen or doing a full spin would be to add some double steps.
#1 option 1
Use left again to start #2. You can fudge this by adding a down arrow (see added note in chart.)
#2 option 2
On gallop cross section perform double step using right foot twice to start #3.
#3 option 1
Any other path requires the player to either spin, face away from the screen, or do a weird twist that looks like something out of river dance. You might have done this before on charts like Be Lovin’.
So there we go. An hour wasted analyzing 3 sections of this thing, and I'm sure there are plenty of other instances of this same sort of behavior in this song. I encourage people to check my stepping to validate my accuracy. It is certainly possible that I'm doing something wrong, and I'm not sure how to form a proof in this instance.
Is the chart fun? Sure. That's what this game is all about. Is the song good? That's up for debate, but I'd say it is. Will I play it again and again just to see myself get tripped up? Fa sho. Is it a brilliant chart that shows Konami either became drunk on hubris or sacked their best chart artists after 5th? I'd argue it does not. Nothing about it is intuitive, and doing it right requires some level of memorization. It shouldn't be the go-to example for good chart design and has a reputation that I don't believe it rightly earned.
I've spent too much of my evening on this post so please forgive spelling errors. I might clean it up tomorrow.
Thanks for reading! You may proceed with insults and tl;drs.
http://www.ddrfreak.com/stepcharts/step ... mit=Submit
I've cut out a part of this chart and segmented it into 3 sets of steps. *See attachment below*
#1: You can do this one of two ways.
1. Left foot on p2 right starting crossed.
2. Right foot on p2 right starting normally.
If you take option 1, it isn’t that hard. Option 2 requires a deep cross making the player face away from the screen or really contort the legs. Depending on the option you take, you end up starting differently for part 2.
#2:
1. Following option 1 above, you begin uncrossed with the right foot on p1 left. This is essentially starting crossed. This leads to a similar deep cross facing away from the screen much like option 2 on part 1.
2. Following option 2 above, this part is fairly simply. You’ll begin with the left foot on p1 left.
#3:
1. Starts crossed right foot p1 left. Fairly easy to do.
2. Starts uncrossed left foot p1 left. Has the same deep cross mentioned above.
The only way to make this work without facing away from the screen or doing a full spin would be to add some double steps.
#1 option 1
Use left again to start #2. You can fudge this by adding a down arrow (see added note in chart.)
#2 option 2
On gallop cross section perform double step using right foot twice to start #3.
#3 option 1
Any other path requires the player to either spin, face away from the screen, or do a weird twist that looks like something out of river dance. You might have done this before on charts like Be Lovin’.
So there we go. An hour wasted analyzing 3 sections of this thing, and I'm sure there are plenty of other instances of this same sort of behavior in this song. I encourage people to check my stepping to validate my accuracy. It is certainly possible that I'm doing something wrong, and I'm not sure how to form a proof in this instance.
Is the chart fun? Sure. That's what this game is all about. Is the song good? That's up for debate, but I'd say it is. Will I play it again and again just to see myself get tripped up? Fa sho. Is it a brilliant chart that shows Konami either became drunk on hubris or sacked their best chart artists after 5th? I'd argue it does not. Nothing about it is intuitive, and doing it right requires some level of memorization. It shouldn't be the go-to example for good chart design and has a reputation that I don't believe it rightly earned.
I've spent too much of my evening on this post so please forgive spelling errors. I might clean it up tomorrow.
Thanks for reading! You may proceed with insults and tl;drs.