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DDR Extreme 2
Has anyone seen this?
Apparently DDR Extreme 2 is coming straight to PS2 instead of the arcades, like Joe's thread indicated from someone's LJ. I stumbled on this by putting "In The Groove" in an msn search attempting to find stepfiles. I dont know what songs are supposed to be on it but hey, it sparks my interest.
Apparently DDR Extreme 2 is coming straight to PS2 instead of the arcades, like Joe's thread indicated from someone's LJ. I stumbled on this by putting "In The Groove" in an msn search attempting to find stepfiles. I dont know what songs are supposed to be on it but hey, it sparks my interest.
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yeah. playing at home is a waste of time. i'd rather be playing Shenmue.SoDeepPolaris wrote:Why is there an XBox YuGiOh! picture? Why is that game even a Platinum Hit for Xbox? [/offtopic]
I really don't care anything about US home versions anymore. They suck really badly, the songs are just disappointments.
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Konami of America has no arcade division. They haven't had one for a few years now. Notice how the newest USA AC release of DDR is USA, from 2000 (or 2001, whatever)?
The only reason there are newer DDR releases for arcade was because Konami of Japan made them. They were then (questionably legally) imported into the USA by arcades. They aren't intended for the US market. In fact, they go so far as to say that the game is "...for sale and use in Japan only..." and promise reprecussions for those using the game outside that territory.
The Extreme US release had nothing to do with the Extreme AC JP release. They use a very different engine, have a wildly different songlist, different graphics, etc. This is because they were developed at a different time by different people (KCEA vs. KCEJ/KCET). Their biggest mistake was probably calling it DDR Extreme.
Extreme II is just another US release. Japan has been getting bunches of CS releases of DDR as well, but no new arcade releases. There's a rumor of a new one, but there's been a rumor of a new arcade release since Extreme AC came out almost 3 years ago.
In all likelyhood, there will NEVER be another USA market arcade release, and any JP market release will probably take its sweet time to get here, especially if it uses new hardware.
So to answer the question at hand, yes: Konami of America is trying to make its money from home releases rather than arcades. This is their entire business model now: they gave up on the American arcade a long time ago.
The only reason there are newer DDR releases for arcade was because Konami of Japan made them. They were then (questionably legally) imported into the USA by arcades. They aren't intended for the US market. In fact, they go so far as to say that the game is "...for sale and use in Japan only..." and promise reprecussions for those using the game outside that territory.
The Extreme US release had nothing to do with the Extreme AC JP release. They use a very different engine, have a wildly different songlist, different graphics, etc. This is because they were developed at a different time by different people (KCEA vs. KCEJ/KCET). Their biggest mistake was probably calling it DDR Extreme.
Extreme II is just another US release. Japan has been getting bunches of CS releases of DDR as well, but no new arcade releases. There's a rumor of a new one, but there's been a rumor of a new arcade release since Extreme AC came out almost 3 years ago.
In all likelyhood, there will NEVER be another USA market arcade release, and any JP market release will probably take its sweet time to get here, especially if it uses new hardware.
So to answer the question at hand, yes: Konami of America is trying to make its money from home releases rather than arcades. This is their entire business model now: they gave up on the American arcade a long time ago.
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Not so fast my friends! Konami is releasing another DDR game in Jan 06 in Japan called DDR Strike. Just that out a couple of days ago at http://www.ddrfreak.com. Not sure its here but I know for sure that there not done yet.
STR!KE is a CS version (PS2) for the Japanese market. It's built on the same engine as Extreme 2 (US PS2). It will feature the new song collaboration between Naoki and Paula Terry that was mentioned several months ago on her website. It will probably also feature songs that have been released to the US Xbox on Xbox Live. And there may be some other new songs as well.
So is it interesting, sure. But it IS NOT an arcade release. There has still been no announcement of any forthcoming arcade releases with the exception of Dancing Stage Fusion for the european market earlier this year.
That doesn't mean there can't be or that there won't be...just that there hasn't been. Last US arcade release: DDR USA - Oct 2000. Last JP arcade release: DDR Extreme - Dec 2002. Interpret that how you wish.
So is it interesting, sure. But it IS NOT an arcade release. There has still been no announcement of any forthcoming arcade releases with the exception of Dancing Stage Fusion for the european market earlier this year.
That doesn't mean there can't be or that there won't be...just that there hasn't been. Last US arcade release: DDR USA - Oct 2000. Last JP arcade release: DDR Extreme - Dec 2002. Interpret that how you wish.
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I wouldn't mind DDR having tougher songs (yeah, Paranoia/Max gets a little old), but they should put more work into the stepcharts. ITG's 11-12 footers seemed wickedly challenging, but I didn't see how many of their stepcharts went with the songs at all.Lil Dyme wrote:if konami should make another arcade version of DDR, i think they should make it more like ITG like adding 11 footers and crap like that offering more of a challenge.
Another home version wouldn't bother me much (I actually liked Extreme USA :[ 'cept for the Karaoke Revolution songs kthx), but I do think they need to work on another arcade mix..and if they decide to make it an actual USA arcade mix, they need to make sure it doesn't suck as much as DDR USA.
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Destiny, Charlene, Xuxa, actually most of the expert songs go along with the songs really well.Intermezzo wrote:ITG's 11-12 footers seemed wickedly challenging, but I didn't see how many of their stepcharts went with the songs at all.
EDIT: corrected quote.
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