I'm still curious as to WHY anyone should have to ignore it?Pheadra wrote:That is why we have the rating system! That is their punishment. Lets take Casey for example. He was standard, and now he is down to warning, he has limited posts that he can use and he cant even rate someone a 'great' if he wanted to....and surprise surprise Casey is one of the "oldies." There is no favoritism going on here...well its not as big as you believe it to be.Silent_Blade wrote:Well yes, it's true that responding to a flame is just plain useless and can escalate the situation, however I don't believe it's as simple as you say to just ignore it. You see some people just like to start trouble, it's obvious from reading these forums.Ho wrote:I also agree. There's no excuse for the unkind remarks that often start a flamewar. However, I think the point is that flaming back--or even responding at all--does not help solve the problem and usually only adds to it. I agree that it's an unfair situation, but the response (or lack of) tends to isolate rather than exacerbate the unjustice.
It sucks that any of us have to be subjected to this kind of thing, but I'd much rather be a part of the solution than just another part of the problem.
When someone gets flamed they tend to respond back, but I don't believe it's for any other reason then to try and get back at them and punish them for their behavior. However the person who started the conflict is let off with no punishment, IndyDDR looks like a game of favourites to me. Those who started the flame war are usually rarely booed by people other then the attacked, meanwhile the attacked for responding to this unjustice are immediately booed.
The only real reason anyone would need to be subjected to this kind of behaviour is because the people that generally start the flamewars are old members, and nobody stops them (Fovouritism), I'm not asking for anyone to get banned, but some kind of punishment needs to be issued.
Maybe minimizing their posts to 10 posts a day or less ~ This would 'cause those who cause trouble to really put some thought into their posts and possibly think "Do I really want to waste my few posts on flaming?"
Possibly weeklong bans~ Well not much is needed in explanation.
I know you don't want to be the baby sitter Brian, but there needs to be some rules, and somekind of punishments need to be enforced. I mean IndyDDR is practically hostile to anyone considering joining the community because on the first page on conversations cornucopia there are like 4 or 5 threads that have been locked because the same people started flame wars.
I'd love the thought of a community without need for anyone in charge to keep it civil...If such a thing were possible, people just don't get along and that's why we have laws set down and people to enforce those laws IRL.
I know you put the rating system in to give the people the choice to who stays and who goes, but somehow the flamers always have somebody AAing their posts to keep them up high enough and out of danger no-matter how rude or offensive their post may have been.
Flamers stick together.
The injustice that you have noticed is abuse of the rating system, yes. But I believe the people that are using the rating system like it should be outweigh the ones that are abusing it.
Week long bans dont work. period.
The person who starts the flame war is "Punished" be getting 'booed' or 'miss' thats it. When someone responds to it they are going to get booed as well because they are just esculating the situation.
And btw it takes a mature person with patience and understand to ignore something. Like I said it isn't easy but you could at least give it a try.
Im not trying to step on your toes or anything its just that I have tried this whole 'ignoring' thing all my life and I seem to be a happy panda with rare conflicts in my life.
The problem is lack of rules, the rating system is being abused that's obvious, Casey's in danger! Woohoo! So what? He can stay in danger all he wants but he's not getting banned, action needs to be taken before this forum can actually be friendly, because these few people who are starting all this crap are just pissing everyone off.
And I'm thoroughly ammused that you just kneel down and accept it when people treat you like dirt, congrats!
I'm terribly sorry, but I do believe most people don't appreciate getting dissed =P
Why can't we just take out the trash so that the majority of people can just get on with their lives and stop having to listen to all this flaming? it's obviously a problem but nobody seems to care enough to just get rid of them.
I also don't mean to step on your toes, but accepting peoples ignorance and their immaturity is senseless and wrong, it's wrong for you and it's wrong for them, they need to be informed of their flaws and punished for a shortwhile so they can ponder their past issues and ask themselves if it's really worthwhile.