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Post by Dyme » Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:03 pm

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Lil Dyme wrote:the only chart ive seen that requires knees is Disconnected Disco expert doubles.
If I remember right Disconnected Disco doesn't require knees...

But Bend Your Mind definately does, and unless you wanna drop one of the freezes you're holding, I can't think of a way around it.
im pretty sure theres 3 arrow freeze with hands in there somewhere.
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Post by Pheonixguy » Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:21 pm

i dont even think knowing to hit it with my hands wouldve helped me XD, i dont play either PIU or ITG much.... DDR seems much more appendage friendly :D

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Post by Mosh_Mosh_Revolution » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:00 pm

Ahhh, "appendage friendly."

That's no good at all. XD

Remind me to post the pictures of the bruises I get in my palms from accidentally handplanting on one of those massive screws. If you get a good one, it'll have the little cross in it. XD
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Post by Pheonixguy » Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:47 pm

Are there any DDR games that require hands/knees?
I havent seen any yet and i dont want to...

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Post by MonMotha » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:08 pm

I believe there is a double chart on Dancing Stage feat. Disney's Rave that has hands, though I don't know if it was the AC, JP CS, or US CS release that had it. IIRC it was the Mickey Mouse march.

Konami never did hands on their DDR titled releases. They also never used certain doubles jumps (1U2U, 1D2D, 1D2U, 1U2D, and 1L2R), presumably because it's fairly easy to injure yourself attempting them. In fact, if you put them in an edit (which the CS versions will happily let you do) and load the edit onto the machine, it will replace such a jump with the two center panels (1R2L).
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Post by Pheonixguy » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:48 pm

I guess in a way thats good... and they obviously don't want to get sued.

Does anyone think that hitting arrows with things other than your feet is fun? :?

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Post by Arka » Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:19 pm

I can confirm that there was a doubles chart with hands on Disney's Rave. I don't think it was Mickey Mouse March, though what it actually *was* I'm not sure of.

Many people think that hitting arrows with things other than their feet is fun... but mostly when they're the ones watching.

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Post by trythil » Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:59 pm

Pheonixguy wrote:I guess in a way thats good... and they obviously don't want to get sued.

Does anyone think that hitting arrows with things other than your feet is fun? :?
I do.

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Post by Yume_Taira » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:52 pm

Pheonixguy wrote:I guess in a way thats good... and they obviously don't want to get sued.

Does anyone think that hitting arrows with things other than your feet is fun? :?
Of course! I've done handplants, kneeplants, and even a buttplant a couple of times! ^_^ Doing nothing but feet can get boring after a while...and almost every good freestyle I've seen involves a plant of some variety. (Note the ALMOST. I have seen excellent FS without them, too.)

The most extreme plant I've seen? A headplant, actually. It was a long time ago, but it was so hardcore. If memory serves me right, it was Drewsifer during Dynamite Rave.

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Post by Pheonixguy » Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:13 pm

is there anyway to "safely" do a hand plant?

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Post by mexican ninja » Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:18 pm

Pheonixguy wrote:is there anyway to "safely" do a hand plant?
Don't fall.

No, seriously, thats it.

Ok, real seriousness, for most songs with hand plants all you have to do is squat down and hit arrows with your hands. Imagine that you're making a beat on a the floor. Now do this while hitting arrows.

And don't fall.

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Post by Mosh_Mosh_Revolution » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:28 am

Pheonixguy wrote:is there anyway to "safely" do a hand plant?
Along with Mexy's suggestion, make sure that you know where you're hitting.

Handplants, kneeplants...they're all very safe. As long as you use a bit of caution when you do it. Whenever I got the screw-shaped bruises on my hands, it was because I dropped back for my handplant. Like this...when all four arrows come up for you to hit at the same time, bend over forward, so that your torso is tucked as you're squatted with your feet on two arrows and your hands on two arrows in front of you.

Sometimes when I do it, I have my feet on two arrows, but my hands on two arrows that are behind me. So it looks more like I'm a crab/doing a backbend than anything else. And when you do it like this, you can't see where you're putting your hands. So landing on screws can happen. n_x And when you're in such a compromising position, falling from that position doesn't feel good, either.

Kneeplants are safe as well, as long as, once again, you use caution. Whenever I did it, I always got a small bruise under my knee, where the raised metal lip surrounds the window for the arrow. It's not bad, though, and it doesn't hurt.

And it looks fuckin' sweet if you do it all right.

If you're around an ITG machine, you should seriously go play Bend your Mind. Start on medium to get a feel for it, then move up to hard. It's seriously a very fun song, and it'll familiarize you with handplants.
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Post by Green Tea » Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:39 pm

I have had several injuries relating to kneeplants and handplants. The knee plant was because I am 6'4 and long legs. This meant that when I went down for a knee plant, I hit the screw and it tore open my knee. It was quite painful for a week or so :D. But handplants I've had some bad experiences before. One instance where I was playing bend your mind last summer, I hit an arrow on the ground with my hand and all the sudden it felt like the area between my middle and ring finger was on fire, and that feeling spread through my hand and it did that for a couple weeks. I think I might've had a tiny fracture on it. Just be careful and don't pound too hard on them. Other thing: the base of the hand is quite hard and if you do it right, you can hit the arrows with no injury.
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Post by Yume_Taira » Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:13 pm

I can speak for the dangers of handplants and kneeplants.

1.) Most good machines in the area have reasonably sensitive arrows, so there is no need to smack them hard. It makes your hand sting and decreases your recovery speed.

2.) Be careful not to lock your arm when you go down. If the shock has nowhere to go, it'll stay in your wrist, and it'll hurt. Trust me; it took me a few Pump plants to figure that out.

3.) Don't slip; after all, some of your weight is on that hand. If your hand slips, you'll go with it. Right, MonMotha?

4.) Unless you have excellent aim, I don't recommend double knee drops, because all your weight goes to two points, and if you miss the arrows...it hurts. Badly. Again, I have done this.

5.) For single knee plants, it again doesn't take much to register. A simple tap will usually do. The resulting bounce will help you stand again.

I hope these tips help you out.

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Post by Pheonixguy » Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:43 pm

thanks, im just going to assume they are all dangerous!!

luckly,(at least when it comes to this stuff) purdue just got a ITG machine recently

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