Rap Music, and the Discussion of It
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Rap Music, and the Discussion of It
As a community based on music-games, I can only assume that we've all got our own taste in what's good and what isn't. So, here's the deal.
I hate rap music with nearly every fiber of my being. This most certainly includes (but is not limited to) nearly every song heard on Indianapolis' 96.3FM and 93.1FM. Popular rap music seems to be a sad mix of a shitty, one-lined catch phrase sung by a no-talent racist/sexist.
Granted, racism and sexism can be funny, but they take that shit seriously and talk about it like it's a key and important part of 'being a g' or whatever the fuck they call that whole idea of being rich for sounding like a dog in heat while they sing.
In my opinion, the entire industry is led by it's producers who, at this point, have simply run out of creativity. The same generic beat (I can point it out to you musically, if you'd like) can be heard in nearly every song with one of three variations. The same cheesy production sounds can be heard in the background, usually a bunch of deep-voiced dudes going "hey" on the off beats.
With such hits like "Walk It Out" and "This Is Why I'm Hot" being played numerous times on a daily basis, I can't help but wonder when the songs will stop being requested and people start to hear something that remotely resembles talent. It simply seems to me that people only listen to it as a way to completely escape having a brain capable of coherent or productive thought.
Fuck popular rap and hip-hop; that's my opinion.
What's yours?
YEeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I hate rap music with nearly every fiber of my being. This most certainly includes (but is not limited to) nearly every song heard on Indianapolis' 96.3FM and 93.1FM. Popular rap music seems to be a sad mix of a shitty, one-lined catch phrase sung by a no-talent racist/sexist.
Granted, racism and sexism can be funny, but they take that shit seriously and talk about it like it's a key and important part of 'being a g' or whatever the fuck they call that whole idea of being rich for sounding like a dog in heat while they sing.
In my opinion, the entire industry is led by it's producers who, at this point, have simply run out of creativity. The same generic beat (I can point it out to you musically, if you'd like) can be heard in nearly every song with one of three variations. The same cheesy production sounds can be heard in the background, usually a bunch of deep-voiced dudes going "hey" on the off beats.
With such hits like "Walk It Out" and "This Is Why I'm Hot" being played numerous times on a daily basis, I can't help but wonder when the songs will stop being requested and people start to hear something that remotely resembles talent. It simply seems to me that people only listen to it as a way to completely escape having a brain capable of coherent or productive thought.
Fuck popular rap and hip-hop; that's my opinion.
What's yours?
YEeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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This.Fluffyumpkins wrote:There are plenty of great hip hop acts.
De La Soul
Del Tha Funkee Homosapien
The Roots
The Foreign Exchange
Beastie Boys
Blackalicious
BlackStar
Even some big name rap isn't bad.
Ludacris
Nappy Roots
Old Snoop and Dre
The trick is to take any song with the word Crunk, and just throw it away.
Mainstream rap and hiphop, for the most part, is pretty terrible, I'll admit. But classic hiphop acts, "progressive hop"/underground artists, and even a few of the newer mainstream artists are pretty good. It's just that when it comes to the latter you really have to fight through the deluge of "shiiiet I got icy hot grillz an be smackin bitchez up da hizzie fo sho WHAT? YEEEEEEEEUH!" tripe in order to find it.
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I typically don't make generalizations when it comes to music genres, or 'mainstream' stuff. But here, I will.
Mainstream rap/hip-hop (stuff with frequent radio play) is more or less awful.
Now, older rap I can stand, as a lot of it makes me laugh. But the whole 'gangsta' fad can burn.
What makes me sad, is some of the artists I've heard DO have talent as vocalists, and their 'flow' is decent...if they'd just stop rapping about the same thing, using a made up language, and shitty back beats.
I'd like to see more instrumentation as well. As in...real instruments, played by real people. With talent. I know this does happen, but like has been said before...you have to wade through a deluge of shit to find it, and I'm not fond enough of hip hop to look for it.
Mainstream rap/hip-hop (stuff with frequent radio play) is more or less awful.
Now, older rap I can stand, as a lot of it makes me laugh. But the whole 'gangsta' fad can burn.
What makes me sad, is some of the artists I've heard DO have talent as vocalists, and their 'flow' is decent...if they'd just stop rapping about the same thing, using a made up language, and shitty back beats.
I'd like to see more instrumentation as well. As in...real instruments, played by real people. With talent. I know this does happen, but like has been said before...you have to wade through a deluge of shit to find it, and I'm not fond enough of hip hop to look for it.
We've had so many threads about meaningless shit on this board, and you choose to bitch now? Fuck, we've got a thread about CATS.I want to be pretentious too should I make a thread about every genre I dont like?
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Sage Francis
The Procussions
De La Soul
A Tribe Called Quest
Apathy
Jedi Mind Tricks
Aesop Rock
Atmosphere
Busdriver
Cannibal Ox
El-P
Cunninlynguists
Dead Prez
Digital Underground
Freestyle Fellowship
Edan
KRS-One
Nas (he's good, just sometimes has too much of a thug mentality)
Royce Da 5'9" (great flow, rhyme switches)
Talib Kweli
And those are just a few.
Mainstream rap for the most part is not that skilled but think about mainstream music in general. You can't, I repeat, CAN'T sit there and say bands like Three Days Grace are very skilled. Mainstream typically isn't about skill, it's about catchy.
A lot of mainstream artists have decent amounts of skill but their subject material is flawed.
The Procussions
De La Soul
A Tribe Called Quest
Apathy
Jedi Mind Tricks
Aesop Rock
Atmosphere
Busdriver
Cannibal Ox
El-P
Cunninlynguists
Dead Prez
Digital Underground
Freestyle Fellowship
Edan
KRS-One
Nas (he's good, just sometimes has too much of a thug mentality)
Royce Da 5'9" (great flow, rhyme switches)
Talib Kweli
And those are just a few.
Mainstream rap for the most part is not that skilled but think about mainstream music in general. You can't, I repeat, CAN'T sit there and say bands like Three Days Grace are very skilled. Mainstream typically isn't about skill, it's about catchy.
A lot of mainstream artists have decent amounts of skill but their subject material is flawed.
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jurassic 5 & ozmatli is your best bet thereOriginal Sin wrote:
I'd like to see more instrumentation as well. As in...real instruments, played by real people. With talent. I know this does happen, but like has been said before...you have to wade through a deluge of shit to find it, and I'm not fond enough of hip hop to look for it.
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I've heard of Jurassic 5, but I've never heard their music. I'm glad someone's rollin' with the instruments, though.THE REAL DEAL wrote: jurassic 5 & ozmatli is your best bet there
Yeah, that's why I typically don't pay much attention to mainstream music. I rarely even listen to rock radio anymore...there are just very few bands that I feel compelled to listen to.Mainstream rap for the most part is not that skilled but think about mainstream music in general. You can't, I repeat, CAN'T sit there and say bands like Three Days Grace are very skilled. Mainstream typically isn't about skill, it's about catchy.
A lot of mainstream artists have decent amounts of skill but their subject material is flawed.
3 days grace is actually a big reason I stopped listening to the radio...funny you should mention them. =)
The only new band I've heard lately that I like a lot is Hurt. Their sound is different than your typical mainstream radio band...and, thus, I don't hear much of them on the radio anymore. Good stuff though.
I'm a metal fan personally...but even new metal...or what they call metal, annoys the hell out of me. They're trying too hard to be 'hardcore,' and losing what I actually like about metal...passion, and epic instrumental work. Now, it's just....angry. Blah.
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I love Anticon and Rhymesayers.hascoolnickname wrote:not dissin on em. its one of the best threadsOriginal Sin wrote:Fuck, we've got a thread about CATS.
good list there zach, have you checked out everything else on anticon?
Some of the best labels out right now.
EDIT:
Although, while I love Eyedea's freestyles, some of his solo stuff is kind of weak.
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I'm not really big into rap at all, but I do prefer some old school Run-DMC hip-hop and some Beastie Boys.
Eminem's funny only about the first 10 times he's played.
That's about it for me when it comes to Rap/Hip Hop.
Eminem's funny only about the first 10 times he's played.
That's about it for me when it comes to Rap/Hip Hop.
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just saw heiruspecs and brother ali on 4/20 weekend
i love anything from st paul minnesota and the rap artists that consider themselves hip hop.
mainstream rap has lost its roots and instead of being an outlet for living in a shitty situation it became a way to glamorize the crap people deal with in a day to day life. it perpetuates ignorance and fuels segregation. just because the mainstream stuff gives it a bad name doesn't make the entire genre shit.
for a list:
deltron
heiruspecs
brother ali
aesop rock
sage francis
oso
the roots
krs one
cunninlynguists (while some of their songs could be considered thuggish a great deal of their stuff brings up a great point about music. for instance seasons)
devin the dude
i love anything from st paul minnesota and the rap artists that consider themselves hip hop.
mainstream rap has lost its roots and instead of being an outlet for living in a shitty situation it became a way to glamorize the crap people deal with in a day to day life. it perpetuates ignorance and fuels segregation. just because the mainstream stuff gives it a bad name doesn't make the entire genre shit.
for a list:
deltron
heiruspecs
brother ali
aesop rock
sage francis
oso
the roots
krs one
cunninlynguists (while some of their songs could be considered thuggish a great deal of their stuff brings up a great point about music. for instance seasons)
devin the dude
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